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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:56 pm 
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Hi all, I've got some money coming and the deal is I can put it into a guitar as an investment i.e. one that will at the very least hold it's price. Now I've fancied having a J-200 for ages and now's the chance. I couldn't stretch to a real old one but can go to the £2,700 range. I hear from various sources and reading interviews with the like of Pete Townshend that J-200s are very inconsistent and it is necessary to try a lot to find the right one but I love their sweet strumming sound when they are good. Pete Towshend said he tried 10 in Manny's NY before finding a good one but here in the uk you'd be lucky to find a shop with 3! So any suggestions on what to look out for? Of course the sound is the overall winner. I'm a bit nervous about ending up with a duff one.

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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:59 pm 
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don't bother i would get an Atkin guitar i have three and they piss on new Gibson acoustics from a great height
http://www.atkinguitars.com/index.htm

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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 10:48 am 
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Any idea if the Atkins hold their price? - I am being given this money on the understanding it has some investment value.

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i understand your thinking,i would go with your heart not your head mate

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 9:50 am 
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I wouldn't buy new - as soon as you walk out of the shop, you've lost at least £700 on it and you would never get that money back.

For £2700 and an investment I would find a vintage Gibson acoustic or even a '40's Gibson archtop acoustic like an L7, L12 or L10. You could get a great sounding '50's one from America including secure insured shipping + customs charges for £2700.

That's what i'd do anyhow :wink:

Check out the inventory of these places to get an idea of what's available for the equivalent $ price which is just short of $4k

http://www.gruhn.com/

http://www.musurgia.com/index.asp

http://www.umanovguitars.com/

I'd stick to '30's - '50's era Gibson acoustics as they started to go a bit off in the mid-late '60's.
You'd be hard pressed to find a '50's J200 for £2700 but if you are set on one then i'd get a recent second hand one.



Also - contrary to most other makers like Fender, Gibson + Gretsch - Martin were turning out some really good instruments in the late '60's early '70's

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:05 pm 
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Well I went on my quest for a dream guitar checked out places here and in London, went to places that advertised they had Atkins in stock but none of them did (I know he is more of a made to order Luthier but I wanted to try one first and see how it resonated with me, guitars preferences are so personal) I was even ready to go to Canterbury. I tried Martins, J-200s J45s old epis all sorts and ages. Then whilst in London I checked out a shop in Kew that advertised having Atkins, J-200s and plenty of other vintage guitars. Well they didn't have any Atkins they has some lovely old Martins and gibsons which weren't quite what I wanted and they had a Pete Townshend sig J200 which I thought might be the one as I love the sound Pete gets out of his J200...but no, boomy and unbalanced. Then there was a Sunburst J200 on the wall 2008. I had wanted a natural one but the guy recommended I try it so I did and..instant Pete Townshend - it had THAT sound You know the start of Wonderwall, early Cat Stevens sweet clear no breaking up when you strum it hard. It was a 2008 standard, not the year or the colour I had wanted but..but I didn't get it. The shop was closing and I didn't wan't to make a rash decision on such a big purchase. I said "if it had been blonde I would take it now but I don't know". So I went home some 80 miles away and it wouldn't leave my head, this was the 7th J200 I had tried most were totally dead sounding or just mediocre and unimpressive. Woke up in the morning and knew I had to get it. So phoned up and bought it.
So here it is:
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and it is inspiring and encouraging. I actually feel like I am not as bad a player as I thought. I could never get an even strum out of my other guitar, recording them was always a case of eq-ing and compressing, struggling with the mic position. This guitar, stick the mic somewhere out front and it sounds great. I wasn't sure how much difference there would be between my other acoustics and a high end one but after playing that one I couldn't actually bring mysellf to play my cheaper Jumbo. I had it in the shop and what I thought sounded half decent sounded complete crap after that one. Phew I finally got the sound I wanted.
..now for the hit album to pay for it :)

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when you get a good one they are amazing i have played so many and they have always dissapointed,i would like a nice old one though

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What a beauty. All the best with it !

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Beautiful guitar. Well chosen :wink:


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i've got an epiphone j-200 from 1996, lovely sound for an Epi too, it has that booming tone. would love to play a Gibbo tho, that one looks ace. I wouldn't be able to stop playing Elvis tunes on it!

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Beautiful guitar. Enjoy!

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Lovely. I just got a J 150 after a loooooooong quest (I'm a lefty) and was a little leery. But it's just magical. Better than I ever dreamed. Cancel the social calendar.

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