mph wrote:
the only point i'll concede to you is the one you make about iraq, the police and the nurses. the rest is beyond belief. all i can say is that the school where you work and your girlfriends colleagues must be on special measures from ofsted operating like that.
what about meetings after school? what about differentiating work to different levels and abilities in each class? what about child protection and sen? after school clubs? if that's the level of care your girlfriends school delivers then thank god i'm not in the catchement area.
i could go on but i think i'll be wasting my breath here. like rita says, you're being a bit coy over what you actually do? what is it then? with an attitude like that, please let it be something that doesn't involve the kids.
I've been asked a few questions, so I'll answer them all in this reply. Boltonlass, I wasn't actually talking about primary school teachers, so there's nothing more I can really say on that, although paraphrasing my points as 'soundbytes and rubbish' doesn't make that true; if I did want to skirt into talking rubbish I would have said something like "how long can it take to mark a five year olds schoolwork about the three times table, what are you doing next week; I'll be in work" etc etc. I digress. None of what I said was anywhere near that obvious or tired so please, don't insult me. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about teachers, I wouldn't date one otherwise. I just don't buy into the 'hard done to' teacher mentality, for the reasons I gave.. I'm sorry you're so upset mph and the others, it's nothing personal, maybe some of you have some sort of complex about not being taken seriously? I don't know you, you don't know me, that's just my opinion based on personal experiences in the school and from time spent with teachers, amongst other things. "Having not taught in a school" doesn't invalidate anything I've said.. people had differing opinions on the dockers, on the miners, on the workers in the British Car Industry during the trade union years, they might not have necessarily worked in any of those fields but they could still have an informed opinion based on other things than employment in that sector. The same applies. If you don't like it, then that's fine, but there's no need for a character assasination, it's just a debate/exchange of opinions. I didn't get personal towards any of you.
No I don't say these things to my colleagues, why would I do that? Do you tell people you know everything about them that irritates you, or things that are negative about them in your opinion? Of course you don't. I don't dislike them as people just because they're teachers like you imply, it doesn't really bother me that much, I just thought I'd voice my opinion seeing as the subject was being discussed, before you went ultra defensive; at that point I thought I'd give my full opinion, which has obviously hit a nerve.
And why me having a contrasting opinion to you about you or anyone elses line of work means I should be kept away from children is beyond me, and to be honest a completely irrelevant and cheap shot.
I'm an IT technician, it's nothing secretive to be honest, just overlooked it in my response before. First job after uni, decent money, going to get some experience in the area and move further up the ladder, hopefully. And Rita, whatever makes you feel better. I could teach if I wanted, I'm a graduate in computing, (I do also teach classical guitar of a night, and I'm qualified to do so.. not that I'm comparing this to teaching in a school before people get upset, more in response to the intelligence jibe) I just want to see if I can progress in this (technicians) sort of field, which in the long run might be better paid than teaching.. if not, I've always got other options, and at least I've tried. Making massive assumptions about me and/or my intellgence because you don't agree with what I'm saying is just childish, and assumption usually, as in this case, leads to failure. I don't really care what you do, you're entitled to your opinion, although I can hazard a pretty good guess...
Right, I think this needs to be dropped now, don't you?