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Someone I know has just retired from the fire service, aged 50, and on a very generous pension. Rather than sit around doing fuck all each day he has got himself another well paid job, so now, not only does he have his very generous pension, he's also earning a second wage that some other fucker could well do with. Now I know that no one expects a fireman to be doing front line service until they're 65 - but there's taking the piss, and there's taking the piss.
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Couldn't agree more, Arne - this happens all the time in education (particularly higher and further education) .. teachers/lecturers 'retire' with a hefty pension and then go back to work as part-time lecturers

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According to the press most firemen have a second job anyway. I can't remember which paper (one someone left on the train which I picked up to read) but supposedly they don't want the shift changes as it will interfere with the arrangements they already have to carry out their second jobs.

No idea if that is true as I some areas of the press do a grand job of pushing information that is not always accurate.

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A small minority of Firefighters have a second job. Brian Coleman who is trying to sack every single one of them has three jobs! He had 4 last year on a salary of over £100,000. It's an ideological assault, the press will do everything possible to make you believe that workers striking are the selfish ones. Divide and rule, oldest trick in the book. The very fact that bonfire night is dependent on the fire service shows how crucial a service they provide, and health and safety standards for night time cover must be an essential part of that.

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I ain't getting political on this one - but just want to give you my insight into the Fire Service.
My friend [a traditional labour voter AND councillor and trade unionist] sits on the Fire Service commitee of a very large council and even given his traditional trade union background told me that the fire service in his area was 40% over-manned.
Also, I work in steel bashing and manufacturing and often have to employ temporary drivers due to absence or holidays and 70% the staff provided by agencies are firemen on their days off / or working after spending the night shift sleeping.
Look, you wouldn't get me running into a fire to put it out and I have great respect that these people will do that, but come on get real on this one guys.
By the way 100% of the firemen that have worked for my company through agencies have been top class, dedicated workers but I'm probably earning less than their fiirst job wage so why the f*ck should I subsidise you sleeping your night shift and then working for an agency?

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London Firefighters call off their planned Bonfire Night strike
amid fears for public safety :!:

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Probably too late to recoup the sympathy of the public who face various change such as job loss, pay cuts or no pay rise or whatver faces those in employment.

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