Richard Hawley

Richard Hawley Forum
It is currently Sat Jul 21, 2018 12:48 pm

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:53 am 
Offline
Resident YouTube tech guru
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:53 am
Posts: 6836
Location: Beside the big aeroplane.
Isn't it just bloody awful that, increasingly, we no longer manufacture things in this country? I know my thoughts on this subject are coloured by my own recent experience at work, but something has gone seriously wrong, hasn't it, when you hear comments like ''we're not manufacturing any more, there's no money in it, all our work now is selling items, made overseas, on the internet''. WHAT THE HELL? :evil: A country of people sitting at computers selling throw away tat that no one really needs, and that means nothing. What happened to well made things that were intended to last a lifetime, were valued & cared for & used every day.
I'm no craftsman, sadly, just a hands on tinkerer, and I'm probably considered a dinosaur, but surely I can't be alone in thinking we really have failed here. :cry:

_________________
On the dry & dusty road, the nights we spent apart alone, I need to get back home to cool, cool rain.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:47 am 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:10 pm
Posts: 4442
Location: Cheshire
Business is all about money - no money no business.

China was the place to go to get your maufacturing over heads down - but the Chinese for a while now have been investing in Africa to get their costs down - whilst retaining control of business.

The UK has failed in allowing its maufacturing base to diminish over past years - Germany retained the majoirty of its maufacturing capability - why didn't we?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:50 am 
Offline
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:10 pm
Posts: 11767
Location: Usually to be found at a computer
It's not just manufacturing, how many call centres are in India (pleased to say the call centre's for my workplace are in the UK).

_________________
There's a raven in the distance, his inscription's all around you, you can't hide

http://www.cousteaux.com/
https://www.facebook.com/CousteauXmusic ... ks&qsefr=1
https://www.facebook.com/LiamMcKaheyandtheBodies


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:53 am 
Offline
Geordie Admin Dominatrix
User avatar

Joined: Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:46 pm
Posts: 5622
Location: Up my own arse
I wish my bloody call centre was in India, there might be better stuff on at the cafe :?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:32 am 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:15 pm
Posts: 1906
Location: Near Wales.
Bentley are doing well at the moment, they are exporting a lot of cars to the rich folks in China!!!!

There used to be two clothing factories within sight of my house, they have been replaced with housing estates.

_________________
Love is so hard to find
And even harder to define


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:53 am 
Offline
Resident YouTube tech guru
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:53 am
Posts: 6836
Location: Beside the big aeroplane.
Poppy Dog wrote:
Business is all about money - no money no business.

China was the place to go to get your maufacturing over heads down - but the Chinese for a while now have been investing in Africa to get their costs down - whilst retaining control of business.

The UK has failed in allowing its maufacturing base to diminish over past years - Germany retained the majoirty of its maufacturing capability - why didn't we?


Exactly. I wish I knew the answer to that.

_________________
On the dry & dusty road, the nights we spent apart alone, I need to get back home to cool, cool rain.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 3:27 pm 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 20, 2008 2:45 pm
Posts: 1905
Location: That Glasgow.
Makes me feel sad walking past some of the nonsense they've built where the shipyards used to be on the Clyde...

_________________
Breathe in, breathe in, breathe out.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 9:16 pm 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:38 pm
Posts: 3554
Location: Cheshire
There is a definite creeping back of call centre to the UK as India's wage demands are beinning to catch up with the west

_________________
Always be a first rate version of yourself, instead of a second rate version of somebody else (Judy Garland)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:02 pm 
Offline
Hawley Super-Groupie

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:56 am
Posts: 438
Location: Matlock, Derbyshire
Quote:
What happened to well made things that were intended to last a lifetime, were valued & cared for & used every day.


I also wonder what went wrong here; Almost everything is disposable today...even worse when it comes to technology. Cameras, phones etc all work fine for years, but we are constantly being bombarded with information about upgrades or some new widget that we simply cannot do without. Everything appears to be designed with quick obsolescence in mind, not necessary with failure in mind but simply to have the 'latest & greatest'.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:54 pm 
Offline
Waitrose Warrior

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:32 pm
Posts: 9844
Location: Sheffield
Steve Lane wrote:
Cameras, phones etc all work fine for years, but we are constantly being bombarded with information about upgrades or some new widget that we simply cannot do without.


Personally, i like cameras that take pictures and phones you can make phone calls on. I have absolutely no idea what an "app" (spelling?) is. And neither do I care 8) :D

_________________
http://www.myspace.com/lukemurcott


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:23 pm 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:10 pm
Posts: 4442
Location: Cheshire
Steve Lane wrote:
Everything appears to be designed with quick obsolescence in mind, not necessary with failure in mind but simply to have the 'latest & greatest'.


That's the way of the World - if there's money to be made get in there!

Anyway talking of things that last have you seen the price of a Harris Tweed jacket?

I bought one in the late 70's for about £40 they now cost between £160 > £220.

Looks like a vist to the Dress Agency in Wilmslow is in order - recycled Harris Tweed must be about £40 there...


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:40 am 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 23, 2004 1:46 am
Posts: 1835
Location: cherry blossom clinic
Poppy Dog wrote:
The UK has failed in allowing its maufacturing base to diminish over past years - Germany retained the majoirty of its maufacturing capability - why didn't we?


Right, but here in Germany imho it has literally been bought back with wage restraint over several years, the rise of underpaid small jobs and subcontracted labour. :evil:

_________________
Hodie adsit, cras absit.
---------------------------------------------------
http://soundcloud.com/westfalienation
http://soundcloud.com/the-sellers


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:44 am 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 1:10 pm
Posts: 4442
Location: Cheshire
Ignatz Wrobel wrote:
Right, but here in Germany imho it has literally been bought back with wage restraint over several years, the rise of underpaid small jobs and subcontracted labour. :evil:


No doubt the route the UK will now follow - we're good at underpaid small jobs and subcontracted labour :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:25 am 
Offline
Hawleytastic!
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:55 pm
Posts: 1798
Location: South, North, now West Yorkshire.
Yes! :?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: UK Call Centers
PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:14 am 
Offline
Too much time on my hands

Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:23 pm
Posts: 783
Many years ago, I was completely confused when I called the Help Desk at a job in the US, and was connected to a "bunch of folks in an old farmhouse outside London." I'd never heard of an outsourced, overseas call center and couldn't figure out how it saved money. Of course, I spent a lot of the company's time and money discussing music, sports and weather with my new overseas friends. Like an early Hawleyboard. :)

I'm seeing more local made products again. I try to buy them when I can. Plus I seem to buy anything made there for sentimental reasons.

~ K


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group