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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:06 am 
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Just seen this tonight, if you liked Borat you'll like this although probably not as much (it's virtually a remake of that film with a different character). The dick jokes get a bit tiresome after a while but there are a lot of scenes that are absolute comedy genius. There's a scene with a psychic that breaks the knuckle, never mind goes near it, a photo casting scene in which there's a gob smacking lack of parental responsibility on display, and as for the Springer type show appearance and the UFC wrestling finale in front of a redneck audience, well....

It's certainly not for everyone but if you know the kind of thing to expect you will laugh a lot.

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i am very easily offended by most everything. should i go and see it?

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i found borat totally shite to be honest

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am i dreaming or did the bruno character make appearances in the ali g show years and years ago????

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Dave Woodcock wrote:
i am very easily offended by most everything. should i go and see it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euP2PNQGFtY

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The least progressive person I know said this film was homophobic. On top of that I've heard nothing good about it either.


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Hahaha that's the best thing I've heard in weeks!

It's not really my type of film, as far as I can make out, so I'm not going to bother with it, but my aunt said it's the best thing she's seen this year. She has that sense of humour, I guess - she loved Borat.

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The least progressive person I know said this film was homophobic. On top of that I've heard nothing good about it either.


Well the character is a screamingly camp parody of a gay wannabe fashion journalist, and while it is a very over the top one (and sometimes stupidly puerile) I didn't think it was homophobic - it just takes the piss out of a certain element of homosexuality that's out there. As such I didn't have a problem with it. Why not take the piss out of screamingly camp fashion journalists (and screamingly camp people in general)? Are gay people in general really so sensitive? Why should they be excluded from being the bait of comedy? I thought they wanted to be accepted into society in general - which also entails not being treated with kid gloves. The key is whether it's funny or whether it's not - end of.

Sure some people will look at it as reinforcing a gay stereotype but if certain audiences are so knuckleheaded as to think that Bruno is in any way typical of a what a gay person is and have these perceptions reinforced by the film then that's *their* problem as far as I'm concerned. The film not being out there isn't going to change those folks and no amount of "positive gay imagery" would change them anyway I don't think. The film is much more than that this though, it mocks a whole load of other things (including homophobia itself).

Baron Cohen is a wind up merchant (towards both conservative *and* liberal attitudes, people in power, and the general public) and in my opinion does it brilliantly 60% of the time. I'll take that over something that's 100% safe & mediocre.

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I sincerely hope so. Was quite disapointed when i heard negative things about it, I'd hoped it wouldn't be a wasted opportunity.


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snapper wrote:
Alan Noir wrote:
The least progressive person I know said this film was homophobic. On top of that I've heard nothing good about it either.


Well the character is a screamingly camp parody of a gay wannabe fashion journalist, and while it is a very over the top one (and sometimes stupidly puerile) I didn't think it was homophobic - it just takes the piss out of a certain element of homosexuality that's out there. As such I didn't have a problem with it. Why not take the piss out of screamingly camp fashion journalists (and screamingly camp people in general)? Are gay people in general really so sensitive? Why should they be excluded from being the bait of comedy? I thought they wanted to be accepted into society in general - which also entails not being treated with kid gloves. The key is whether it's funny or whether it's not - end of.

Sure some people will look at it as reinforcing a gay stereotype but if certain audiences are so knuckleheaded as to think that Bruno is in any way typical of a what a gay person is and have these perceptions reinforced by the film then that's *their* problem as far as I'm concerned. The film not being out there isn't going to change those folks and no amount of "positive gay imagery" would change them anyway I don't think. The film is much more than that this though, it mocks a whole load of other things (including homophobia itself).

Baron Cohen is a wind up merchant (towards both conservative *and* liberal attitudes, people in power, and the general public) and in my opinion does it brilliantly 60% of the time. I'll take that over something that's 100% safe & mediocre.

"You're offended? So fucking what?" - Stephen Fry (one of my favourite quotes)


That post has offended me.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:38 pm 
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snapper wrote:
Just seen this tonight, if you liked Borat you'll like this although probably not as much (it's virtually a remake of that film with a different character). The dick jokes get a bit tiresome after a while but there are a lot of scenes that are absolute comedy genius. There's a scene with a psychic that breaks the knuckle, never mind goes near it, a photo casting scene in which there's a gob smacking lack of parental responsibility on display, and as for the Springer type show appearance and the UFC wrestling finale in front of a redneck audience, well....

It's certainly not for everyone but if you know the kind of thing to expect you will laugh a lot.


Jesus Wept, Cohen has been tiresome since Ali G jumped the shark with that fuckawful film 'In Da House' or whatever the Monkhouse it was called.


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Fair enough, like I said I know he's not to everyone's taste - something I indicated in the first and last sentences which you quoted.

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Yeah but you still went on to dare to have your own opinion. Have fun in Hell.

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