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that is happening here,the rent price increase has forced the great shop Rare and racey to the brink i heard a rumour they are shutting in April,the same thing happened to Mr Kites i love the Devonshire green shops bit of Sheff it'll be sad to see it disapear

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that is happening here,the rent price increase has forced the great shop Rare and racey to the brink i heard a rumour they are shutting in April,the same thing happened to Mr Kites i love the Devonshire green shops bit of Sheff it'll be sad to see it disapear


rare and racy has been there nearly 40 years can you believe, i can't think of another shop like it, it would be a tradegy if that goes :(

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i saw Barry at recored collector the other week and he was feeling the pinch too sad you won't find the velvet underground in Tesco's i think the supermarket and internet revolution is going to affect modern culture in a big way,god its SUCH a moany thread this but i do get freaked out by all this shit and lack of love of important things for the sake of profit,cultural suicide

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when you lose real shops, you lose individualism and character.

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A place I spent a LOT of time as a teenager was Southport, but that has, in my opinion, been completely ruined by planners. Fair enough, they developed the sea front first of all, and re-built the pier, which is great. But they've gone too far now.

Chapel Street, once the bustling high street, has been closed to traffic and pedestrianised, which in one fell swoop has stripped the heart out of the town. The place used to have a real buzz about it on a Saturday afternoon, I remember getting the bus from the station on this road down to Southport FC (sad I know.. I was young and easily led), but everything I used to love about the place seems to have gone now. The pedestrian zone just looks desolate and windswept, particularly in the winter, and they've put in these odd black coffin shaped benches, which doesn't really help to lift the mood. Also, slowly but surely all the good and independent shops are closing down, and being replacing with pound land, fruit machine arcade's, etc. As Chapel Street was also a major route through the town for cars and buses, trying to get into Southport this way is now a traffic nightmare... I can only assume a councillor was on the take to get the whole scheme approved, because nobody with half a brain could ever agree to an idea that would cause so much congestion, and ruin the atmosphere of the place.

Oh and lets not forget the ABC picture house, open since 1911, a grade II listed building, torn down last year in the name of 'progress'; replaced with a block of flats. The whole dillusional concept of modern, urban living, in ultra modern towns in glass fronted apartment buildings has been sold to the people of the nation as some sort of gateway to happiness, a world were every middle class urbanite is the same as the other; like "live here, buy a plasma tv, get an ipod, wear a suit to work, drive a bmw... you're now a success, feel happy". In fact, It's just a way for planners to make a quick buck, bastardise our towns and cities, and then leave us to wonder what went wrong.

Oh and the fair has closed down now as well, with the site now resembling some sort of derelict, Gotham City hideout for the Joker. In case you can't tell, I'm really annoyed over Southport. I'm sure there must be, god, maybe half a dozen people that like it, but it really breaks my heart to think of how much better it used to be only five or so years ago.


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In case anybody thinks I'm a middle aged bloke going on about "the good old days", I'm actually 24, and I'd guess probably in the number one target age group for the urbanite fantasy. I usually compare people who like that sort of thing to crows/jackdaws (as in big bright and shiny = better/desirable); some people are far too easily impressed.


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I'm 41 and my outlook is NOT an old gits outlook i am very open to knew ideas i just cannot stand the arrogance of developers who knock down history in the name of profit.....simple

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Sadly I can't see the bubble bursting anytime soon. Which building were you referring to in Liverpool earlier Rich, the listed one that they needed volunteers to crash into and damage so they could knock it down?


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I'm 41 and my outlook is NOT an old gits outlook i am very open to knew ideas i just cannot stand the arrogance of developers who knock down history in the name of profit.....simple


Absolutely. This kind of thing is happening everywhere, history is being destroyed and communities smashed up in the name of money and profit. :evil: :x Whole swathes of Southampton's history have been destroyed and replaced with awful, badly designed flats.

And I'm 33.

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But the cooling towers, jesus... Just about all of the proposals for saving them were better than pulling them down. For fuck's sake Anthony Gormley was in there at one point & he would have done something amazing with them I'm sure.


He designed the angel of the north, lot of people not sure about it. i like it, when i've been working away travelling up the A1 and i see this it makes me happy to be home again.

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that is happening here,the rent price increase has forced the great shop Rare and racey to the brink i heard a rumour they are shutting in April,the same thing happened to Mr Kites i love the Devonshire green shops bit of Sheff it'll be sad to see it disapear


This has been on the cards for ages (and I'm not excusing the developers one iota here, or saying they are in any way beneficial) but it may also down to the greedy bleeders who already own the 'old' buildings. I used to run a mountaineering shop, 'Rock + Run', it was next door to the corner place on Devonshire Street, t'other side of Westfield Terrace from the Frog and Parrot.

When I started there there was a plumber's merchants (that became the Halcyon bar), a travel agents (Starbucks perhaps?), a hearing aid shop (Ark???), a card / gift / painting shop (Ark again) - basically the sort of place you can't find any more.

Our shop was very special - 3 blokes like me, all very experienced climbers / mountaineers, using the specialist kit every week for years- we knew what was what, weren't swayed by fashions / trends (much anyway), all we did was work at climbing and play at climbing - sho had been there 12 years, people knew us personally, we new them, they got discounts for loyalty, very good personal service etc. etc.

Put it this way, if you needed a spare bit for a 10 year old camping stove or an ice axe that hadn't been manufactured for 9 years, we probably had it - and could tell you how to use it properly.

The lease was 15 years - the day it ran out the landlord increased it by 100%. Boom, gone within a year or so.... a sad loss.

Actually, the burgeoning need for city centre land and premises is responsible for that, and it's driven by large companies and development. Bastards.


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This is not a photoshopped image. the words were projected onto the angel of the north.

Lots of good stuff on this thread.

While we are talking about having a voice about all the rotten things that are happening to our cities there are ways to appropriate and protest. Even if you don't agree with the sentiment of this projection I think you have to agree it's bold and it's brave. With a bit of imagination protest can take many forms. Writing on a forum is only one way to share your voice. Singing is another. Shout louder and get creative in making your voice heard. Thats all. The forum is one thing but getting out there are making your feelings heard is another. Express yourself....
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This is not a photoshopped image. the words were projected onto the angel of the north.



that's amazing irrespective of the message.

Thing about the cooling towers here - http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/apr/02/regeneration.communities

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Shout louder and get creative in making your voice heard. Thats all. The forum is one thing but getting out there are making your feelings heard is another. Express yourself....


I agree completely. I have objected to planning applications several times to at least feel I am doing something. Sadly, money means more to local councils than protecting heritage or providing varied housing (ie not just flats, some people need houses!) and they carry on regardless of objections on the whole. Still worth objecting tho!

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Afternoon everyone. To bring this conversation back to the top of the pile, I'd just like to share with everyone this letter. I'm presuming the sender won't object - I have emailed him today suggesting we catch up for a chin wag when my Masters degree course finishes in a few weeks time. Nice to know that people read and take issue with my rants about the university's modern architecture,

Mr. H - you'd be very welcome to sit in on this meeting whenever we get it arranged...

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